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Josh Trent on the 5th Pillar of Health

Josh Trent - Peak Human Podcast


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I usually talk about the 4 pillars of health which I focus on most - diet, sleep, a form of exercise, and sun/outdoors. Josh has been studying what I'm calling the 5th pillar which is the mind/body/spirit stuff that includes stress, breathing, emotional intelligence, etc. I had a great time recording this with him at his home in Austin. We did an hour in the sauna and a cold plunge afterwards!

Josh Trent is the Founder of Wellness Force Media, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE a Breath & Wellness Program.

Josh has spent the past 19+ years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.

Josh and Wellness Force Media Mission is to help humans heal mental, emotional and physical health through podcasts, programs, and a global community that believes in optimizing our potential to live life well.

Josh has dedicated his life to supporting humanity coming together as one.


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  • [1:28] - Josh’s Background and journey to Wellness Force

  • [8:15] - Brian’s asks Josh to help us understand the spiritual, mental and emotional side of well-being

  • [22:00] - The Art, Science and Technique of Breathwork

  • [35:16] - How Past Trauma and Breathwork are related

  • [44:45] - Tips for better breathing posture

  • [50:30] - The Beginning, Middle and End of Breathwork

  • [57:00] - Looking at Breathwork through an Ancestral Lense

  • [1:01:10] - Josh and Brian’s thought son Psychedelics

  • [1:10:00] - The trap of being uncomfortable in our modern life

  • [1:15:45] - What the BREATHE: Breathe and Wellness program and Why Breathwork is so powerful to Josh


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