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Dr. Ted Naiman & Nick Norwitz, PhD and the Food System Scoring Wars

Dr. Ted Naiman & Nick Norwitz - Peak Human Podcast


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Ted Naiman is a board-certified Family Medicine physician in the department of Primary Care at a leading major medical center in Seattle. Senior Science and Communication Advisor for His research and medical practice are focused on the practical implementation of diet and exercise for health optimization. He has an undergraduate degree in mechanical engineering and utilizes engineering principles when dealing with complex systems such as human health and nutrition.

Dr. Nicholas Norwitz obtained his PhD in ketogenic nutrition and metabolism from Oxford University and is pursuing his MD at Harvard Medical School. He is a certified Metabolic Health Practitioner (MHP), and the author of peer-reviewed scientific papers and textbook chapters on topics including Alzheimer’s disease, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, gastrointestinal health, genetics, osteology, and Parkinson’s disease, as well as a blogger and lecturer on the application of the ketogenic diet as metabolic medicine.

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[9:49] What is the idea of a healthy diet for a day?

[13:05] The biggest factor in the obesity crisis.

[17:19] Which is more important: food or exercise?

[23:23] Are seed oils poison?

[29:08] Satiety Per Calorie concept.

[34:05] Is Nutrient Density scoring system going to work?

[50:41] Satiety Per Calorie scoring system complexity.

[1:13:50] Can the Diet Doctor resource scores be harmful for patients?

[1:19:20] What is the Carbohydrate Insulin Model?

[1:23:25] What all these models can not explain?

[1:32:36] Is it possible to create a scoring system that would be generalizable?





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